Jack Sondergaard: hello
Khamon Fate: hi jack
Jarnelius Barbosa: hi
Jack Sondergaard: have either of you heard much about Xanadu?
Khamon Fate: not a thing. the hypercard (text) reference caught my attention
Jarnelius Barbosa: not at all
Jack Sondergaard: OK
Khamon Fate: i'm telling my age
Jarnelius Barbosa: xanadu is a ne
Jarnelius Barbosa: a name of a restaurant in Kotka Finland
Jack Sondergaard: it is a project designed by Ted Nelson, who also invented the word "hypertext"
Jack Sondergaard: He came up with the basic ideas back in the early 1960's
Jarnelius Barbosa: LSD?
Jack Sondergaard: it involved the idea of keeping the content separate from the formatting and the links in hypertext
Jack Sondergaard: this made for some interesting possibilities
Jack Sondergaard: you could add links to documents you did not author
Jack Sondergaard: there could be sets of links to choose from
Jack Sondergaard: he also specified that once a document was placed in Xanadu, it was not to be deleted
Jack Sondergaard: if there was a new version, it would also be added
Khamon Fate: edited but never deleted?
Jack Sondergaard: so links would not break
Jack Sondergaard: yes
Jack Sondergaard: older versions would point to newer ones
Jack Sondergaard: and you would be able to compare them side by side, with the differences shown visually
Khamon Fate: up to how many iterations?
Jack Sondergaard: no limits
Khamon Fate: or just the link and it's forward?
Jack Sondergaard: forward?
Khamon Fate: i create a link, eventually forward it to a new link, eventually forward that to another link
Khamon Fate: will all three be compared?
Jack Sondergaard: some kind of a database would would track all the versions
Khamon Fate: how many can i reasonably see and compare at once
Khamon Fate: or will i see the chain as a list of links
Jack Sondergaard: there might be some limit to how many versions you look at at one time
Jack Sondergaard: usually, comparing 2 versions would be the most practical
Jack Sondergaard: links could be typed
Jack Sondergaard: so there would be links of correction, supporting facts, definitions, comments, etc.
Jack Sondergaard: you could filter what types of links to see at any time
Jack Sondergaard: and filter links by authors also
Jack Sondergaard: also before publishing in Xanadu, you would give permission in advance for your document to be quoted by anyone up to any length
Jack Sondergaard: all documents would be authenticated and probably encrypted
Khamon Fate: by linking?
Khamon Fate: or by copying the text?
Jack Sondergaard: quotation would be done by a special method called transclusion
Jack Sondergaard: all quotations would be linked back to the original document
Jack Sondergaard: so the context could be checked
Jack Sondergaard: and links would be 2-way
Jack Sondergaard: so the quoted document would point to all documents that quote it
Jack Sondergaard: links would be span to span, not point to document
Jack Sondergaard: so whole sentences, paragraphs, chapters, etc. could be linked to and from
Jack Sondergaard: at first it might be just text, but support for all media would be included
Jack Sondergaard: you could sell what you create, but readers would only pay for what they read
Khamon Fate: it's an interesting idea for a virtual environment
Jack Sondergaard: yes
Khamon Fate: i'll look at the website
Jack Sondergaard: OK
Khamon Fate: are you thinking of linking this to an inworld service via httprequest()?
Jack Sondergaard: from SL?
Khamon Fate: yes
Jack Sondergaard: it is still a work in progress being done by several groups
Jack Sondergaard: but it should be able to be linked to and from various virtual worlds like SL
Khamon Fate: k, i'll nose around. thanks for the info. i have to attend real life for a while
Khamon Fate: nice seeing you
Jack Sondergaard: OK, thanks for coming